Great work! Route VI drives me crazy. I gotta scroll down to find that tip :-) i’m totally stuck

incredible! have you had much luck with chord crush, are you still doing it?

@Dima G No - it didn't seem to help with the TG chord progressions. I was blazing on the 2-5-1, but then came the vii diminished. Actually was just learning about VII diminished standing in for V7, so I get it. But my ears don't yet!

@Terri Winters did you progress past the world 2 there? i'm still doing 2-5, 2-6 and 2-7 there on maximum difficulty every day, it seems to be helping with real world applications (as well as chords contest here) way better than Route VI ever did.

also I just started practicing on real songs there as well just recently. even though i was (literally) crushing chord contests here on TG, identifying chord progressions in real songs is toughhhhh...

@Dima G Definitely looking for a way in! Today I had a lesson and we talked about chord progressions in jazz. Finally understood that I need to think about the V7 function (even when it's not diatonically in the scale). Such recent info, don't know how it will play, but I'm so looking for that key to understand what composers are trying to tell me! Back to Arnold S and the overtone series...

@Terri Winters with that one really singing the G7 chord helps a lot: sol-ti-re-fa. ti-re-fa itself is a diminished triad. but that diminished vii chord is part of the minor cadence (vii-III-vi) so it might help to hear it as part of that too.

Route VI for me is just a game of deduction, often I end up using my knowledge of whether a chord is major or not to get through some stages. It just becomes Chordelius in disguise.

@Terri Winters - that is AWESOME!!! Good for you. Was thinking of you this morning when I played it - wondering (since you are a pianist) - if it might help to work some of those out *on* the piano as well, but sounds like you are rocking Route VI!!
You will get better and better at it now!

While jamming/performing casually this weekend, I was playing mandolin with a violin player, and was able to figure out what chords (I,V,IV,vi) to play entirely aurally (no sheet music) I finally was able to hear how these chords sound in the context of the key independent of the previous chord or thinking of the root (directly knowing leading to faster response times, aka a 16th note or less). Keep it up you can do this if you do not quit. 5 years ago I had absolutely no musical ear.

what is the tool?

@Benjamin Jack Thanks for the inspiration!

@Andrew Shewaga - in many of the games (like Route VI) in the lower right hand corner of the playing field, there is a scale icon. When you answer a question, you can click the scale (or click the letter “C” on your keyboard) it will freeze the game and allow you to hear all of the options. In the case of Route VI, it allows you to hear each chord progression answer so you can compare how they sound to one another. In other games like Chordelius, it will let you hear each chord, and I believe it arpeggiates each chord as well. Same for Inversionist.